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19 February 2012. Add exchange between Evgeny Morozov and Andrew Lewman, via cypherpunks. 22 January 2012 Tor Project Penalized by USG?
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 23:12:13 +0100 ----- Forwarded message from liberationtech[at]lewman.us -----
From: liberationtech[at]lewman.us
: I was a bit puzzled by it. So were people at To be clear, two other news organizations were as well, but only Cryptome published something.
: Now, Andrew's statement is carefully worded, i.e. it does allow for the Yes, it was carefully worded. It was cryptome after all. Generally, the journalists were looking for some drama-filled story where there is none.
: So it would be good to know whether a) Tor did lose some or all of USG Tor did not lose existing funding. We applied for some funding right around the time when Jacob's volunteer activities with wikileaks were in the news. We did not get the funding. The lack of funding the proposal was not attributed to 'wikileaks', but rather lack of sufficient funds. I'm taking it at face value that we applied for some funding near the end of a fiscal year and were denied because there wasn't enough money in the budget to fund the project.
: Whatever the motivation, USG cutting support to circumvention tools is
a We just started our 2011 audit, so in a few months we'll have something for public release. --
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[19 February 2012. Appelbaum has not answered this inquiry.]
Date: 22 January 2012 Jacob, Julian Assange was quoted in a Rolling Stone interview of January 18, 2012: "The Tor Project, which protects people around the world from being spied on or censored, lost some $600,000 to the U.S. government, as a result of one of their people, Jacob Appelbaum, having filled in for me once at a conference in New York." Andrew Lewman writes me that is news to him, that Assange should publish what he knows about USG funding. http://cryptome.org/2012/01/0053.htm Is Assange's claim accurate, completely or partially? Was Tor Project financially penalized by the USG for your appearance or for participation in the Tor Project? Thanks very much. Regards,
John Young
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:35:30 -0500
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 07:36:43AM -0500, jya[at]pipeline.com wrote 0.8K
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I read this statement as well. It is news to me that we were penalized -- Andrew
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Date: 22 January 2012 Dear Andrew, Julian Assange was quoted in a Rolling Stone interview of January 18, 2012: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/julian-assange-the-rolling-stone-interview-20120118?page=5 Is Assange's claim accurate, completely or partially? Was Tor Project financially penalized by the USG for Jacob's appearance or for his participation in the Tor Project? The conference was the HOPE gathering in NYC in the summer of 2010. We have seen your financial statements for 2007-2010 posted on torproject.org which, as far as I can tell, do not show USG funding being reduced in that amount. Thanks very much. Regards,
John Young
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