7 September 2012
LA Prosecutor Patrick Frey Chats with Barrett Brown 2
Barrett Brown sends:
This is the kind of thing that interests this fucking prosecutor after
HBGary caught going after journalists, me, Anonymous, Greenwald, etc.
Patrick: How is it that Think Progress is reporting that the Chamber
of Commerce dug up info on Velvet Revolution -- yet we only see
e-mails about Brad Friedman and not about his partner, convicted
bomber Brett Kimberlin?
me: Velvet Revolution?
11:41 PM You and I may use differing terminology
I don't read Think PRess as they get their info from us
Patrick: It's almost as if Think Progress didn't publish the e-mails
about Kimberlin that certainly were sent
me: Nor am I a liberal, remember
I should note that we've been going over tens of thousands of e-mails
plus docs that Barr wanted to sell to FBI, with my name in them
Patrick: Velvet Revolution is the organization that Brad Friedman set
up with convicted bomber Brett Kimberlin
me: who's this person?
11:42 PM oic
I'll make sure it's run
give me a summary, plz?
Then I'll go through raws and find it all
Patrick: I have written about Kimberlin
me: You know we have an app up by which you can search through all
the e-mails, right?
it goes up and down
we're building mirrors
I'll tell you, though
11:43 PM me: that I spoke to Tom Callamore on Friday
of the Chamber
and spoke to Aaron Barr on Sunday, right after we jacked his info
and took over HBGary's server
neither did very well
11:44 PM okay, so Kilberlin is a terrorist
okay, how does this involve Chamber?
11:45 PM As I said, I've been kind of busy with the conspiracy against
Greenwald, Wikileaks, and me and my friends
Patrick: Think Progress says they were gathering info on Friedman
me: the one done by federal contractors
does this info come from our heist?
who do these people work for, one of the firms?
Patrick: These people? Friedman?
11:46 PM me: Yeah, who's Brad Friedman?
I've got a cast of characters here about a hundred strong
and like I said
we're kind of at war
so I don't know who this is
to put it another way
did you do a piece on Greenwald?
me: You know, this campaign to commit crimes in order to destroy him?
11:47 PM ok
Patrick: I know very little about it
me: but you want ThinkProgress to cover certain things?
Maybe you should read some different venues
Greenwald's a friend
Patrick: They're going to cover what they cover
me: and even if he weren't
yeah, same with you
Like, I can give you scoops
I've been handing them out like candy to Bloomberg et al
Some of these might even help conservatives
11:48 PM Speaking of which
We're going after Chavez soon
You guys really should consider working with us
Patrick: Feels too . . . illegal
me: Anonymous is an anarcho-libertarian movement to the extent that
it has politics
Would you be willing to work with Chamber of Commerce?
cause they do illegal shit, too
11:49 PM Except they do it to those who've done nothing except for
Patrick: Maybe not, depending on what they were doing
me: whereas we do it to people who try to wrongly accuse people to the FBI
I'm assuming you have'nt seen my Guardian piece?
on why we do what we do?
Or the Bloomberg piece on us?
Patrick: The only thing that got my attention about all this was the
angle having to do with the convicted bomber
me: I'll bet
Patrick: But send the links
11:50 PM me: Look
We're seriously at war here
Patrick: I have limited time and my own reasons -- the bomber has
threatened a lawsuit against me. That tends to get your attention
me: Yeah, and I've got the feds after me
Patrick: He has done much else as well
So that has your attention
me: plus several security firms with NSA ties
yes, but we're still on Tunisia
11:51 PM the latter, no thanks to the folks who have decided that
Muslim Brotherhood is behind this
If you look
You'll see that I called Egypt
before it began
the reason is
that we have good intel
and of course are involved
so, regarding those of your friends who are going with MB angle on Egypt
11:52 PM I'd ask them to show where they've gotten results in terms of
I work directly with Egyptian protest leaders
I didn't use to talk about this shit because no one was going to
believe me anyway
Sorry, I don't mean to be standoffish
We've just had a busy week
Now, as for Friedman
11:53 PM Patrick: Interesting
me: can you summarize who he is, etc?
If you can
I'll put some people on it
Do you know much about Anon?
Patrick: Professes to be an "election integrity" guy.
love those types
they were popular in Nicaragua, lol
11:54 PM as P.J. O'Rourke noted back when he was good
Patrick: No, don't do anything with him
me: No, I'm kidding
Maybe you should call me
Patrick: OK, jokes don't always translate on chat
Patrick: Anyway, he is partnered with a convicted bomber
Patrick: Who wants to sue me
me: so is Obama
11:55 PM Patrick: Not business partners
And this is all in the public record, right?
Patrick: Friedman is the guy who credits himself with revealing that
the ACORN videos were supposedly a hoax
I fought him on it
He and Kimberlin have tried to get me fired
11:56 PM me: okay
for what are they suing you?
or trying to?
Patrick: Written numerous posts distorting the facts
me: libel or some shit?
Patrick: For writing about the fact that Kimberlin is a convicted bomber
me: I imagine it's bullshit, right?
Patrick: Kimberlin has called my office and claimed I am stalking him
complete and utter bullshit
that's a funny way to go about it
11:57 PM Patrick: Friedman's association with Kimberlin discredits him
when people find out who Kimberlin is
So they try to squash it
I'm quite sure the Chamber was interested in Kimberlin if they were
interested in Friedman
So Think Progress portrays Brad as a victim
But not a word about Kimberlin
Which I found interesting
me: I see
Patrick: Anyway, the search engine is what I was looking for
11:58 PM me: Do you know what Chamber was trying to do via those other firms?
Patrick: Not really
me: HBGary, etc?
Patrick: The Think Progress piece sounded to me like they were
gathering social media intel
11:59 PM me: heh
I have all the e-mails
some of which are public, some of which I'm still going through
they wanted to release a fake document in such a way as that the
unions or some such would obtain it
and run it
rather, just watch this clip
12:00 AM Patrick: Oh, I think I did see something about that. Yeah,
me: at any rate, I've never talked to Think Progress
been working with Bloomberg
some Japanese TV show
12:01 AM we made the first round of e-mails available for download
first night we got em
and then media started going through
the thing is
there are a lot of stories here
like, a lot
touching on NSA and whatnot
I spoke to NSA lady a few days back
which, thanks to the incompetence of the federal contractor crowd
we now have
12:02 AM bottom line is
we're at war
I've split my own org into two
one faction stays with me
the other goes with one of our tops guys and continues overt,
respectable, non-illegal ops
you might look into it at some point
12:03 AM they're trying to build secular, liberty-oriented
institutions in Tunisia, etc
I'm in talks with the fellow who wrote Nepal's constitution
about creating a framework for Tunisia
which I guess is now a confirmed operation although of course this
is in early stages
12:04 AM Jenik Radon is the fellow
this is off the record for now, btw
If you have any interest in joining the team
let me know
if you need to verify this stuff
talk to Barry Eisler
12:05 AM ex-CIA directorate of operations fellow
Patrick: I am firmly against doing anything illegal, just so you and
the FBI agents monitoring this chat know
me: now a novelist, commentator
like I said
well, should also note I'm not a hacker
certainly people within state of California engage in crimes?
as in, employees
but you're not a criminal
neither am I
Patrick: Yes. I prosecute them if the crimes are bad enough
me: and as I said
12:06 AM of course
anywho, there are a lot of options, totally legal and overt
and the constitution thing
might be up your alley
Patrick: Fair enough. Too busy to make much of it now, but thanks for the offer
me: Okay, thanks for considering
now, regarding Friedman
12:07 AM you want us to look through e-mails for that?
12:08 AM Patrick: For what?
me: I don't know, why'd you come to me on this again?
12:09 AM Patrick: Actually, pretty much to ask what you told me: is
there some place on the Web where all this shit is?
me: ah, yes
as I said
Patrick: Because I figure they looked into Kimberlin if they looked
me: anonleaks.ru is shaky
12:10 AM was up all week but been up and down depending on one's location today
if you have problems, let me know
and I'll see what else is available
we actually have a much better version going up soon
trying to find a server for it
Patrick: Also: Think Progress makes it sound like Friedman's home
address was disclosed. They redact it. But Friedman posts an address
on his own damn site that looks like a home address -- a place to send
checks. I wanted to see if that is the address they got
12:11 AM me: ah
yeah, you can see raws via that site
I never download the file itself
as I'm on shitty connection at the moment
Patrick: I'm doing a search and not finding this stuff
12:12 AM me: try a sample search real quick
look up Endgame
I mean, are any searches working?
Patrick: Maybe I'm just using it wrong
me: are you sure these come from us?
12:13 AM our stuff was extracted from HBGary servers
includes messages from other folks only to the extent that they were
e-mailing HBGary folks
Patrick: When I put in "bradley louis friedman los angeles" I get
e-mails that do not have those terms
me: or Aaron Barr himself, as we got all his e-mails
I'd just search Friedman
Patrick: I put that in because Think Progress listed that as his name
me: tell me what happens
12:14 AM wait, give me link to ThinkProgress piece?
Patrick: Yeah, but there are 63 results
me: let me make sure these are ours
you know that to the extent you look around
Patrick: I think I gave it to you up the chat thread, no?
me: you'll find incredible scoops, right?
12:15 AM Patrick: Maybe not
okay, so Think Progress redacted the info for the guy's partner
12:16 AM Patrick:
me: this is partner as in gay lover?
Patrick: Don't think so
me: yeah, I got it, you did give it earlier
so what you're saying is that Think Progress intentionally avoided
using the name?
Patrick: I think it's for his "life partner" which is different from
Kimberlin, his business partner
me: of the bomb enthusiast?
12:17 AM Patrick: Who set off bombs and blew off a guy's leg
More than an enthusiast
Which guy later killed himself
me: yeah, I was being wry, it's very sad
12:18 AM much sadder than anything that hurts conservatives, of course
frankly, I can see why
as an editorial decision
they would keep the info out of the story
even without knowing who the guy is
Doesn't help their cause
me: your background is in law, I guess?
it could be what you're saying
12:19 AM there's not going to be any way to prove it by seeing the e-mails
unless I'm missing something
Patrick: They want to make the Chamber look bad. If the Chamber was
gathering info on one of these people being a convicted bomber, that
right now, Pat
Patrick: Well, if they redacted Brad's address which he puts himself
on his site, it makes him less of a martyr
me: the Chamber is known to have looked at gathering intel on people's children
12:20 AM Patrick: It didn't look that way to me
me: it's not like they said, "Oh, just this one guy who bombed someone"
Yeah, but you're not capable of making that call yet
You haven't been going through these e-mails and drafts for a week
Patrick: It looked like they got info on a Chamber guy's children to
show how easy it is
no, it doesn't
You need to do your homework on this one
I'll show you in a second
12:21 AM Chamber wasn't trying to show everyone that they need to be careful
they weren't going to leak that document in order to make the union look bad
just to show how easy it is
we just hacked into those people's servers in order to show how easy it is
in which case, yeah, I love your take and I'd love you to defend us
12:22 AM oolooolooololololl
need to read the e-mails
HBGary specialized in certain things
as did their NSA-affiliated buddies
among those things
me: were trying to break into Greenwald's financial records
Patrick: Found it
12:23 AM me: ah, did you?
Patrick: Kimberlin is mentioned in the same fucking e-mail
me: well, there you go!
aren't you glad we're out there doing our thing?
don't tell me you're not having fun right now
12:24 AM it's fun as shit
and now you've got your story
Patrick: Thanks for that link
Give me the stuff about what they have been doing
me: oh, happy to give it out, I assure you
12:25 AM chamber?
Patrick: So I can do my homework
but they're not the most interesting ones
just the most high-profile
what you want to look at
Patrick: I only want links to things that are out there on the Internet
me: of course
Patrick: Remember, FBI agents, I don't commit crimes!
12:26 AM heh
I can tell you that Bloomberg et al are using stuff that's not out there
we give out favors, remember
we love our friends in the business press
but listen to that recording
before you look into the rest
will give you an overview of how this went down and why
I'll tell you something else funny
12:27 AM we got into all of Aaron Barr's accounts due to him using
same passwords on all of them
for his World of Warcraft account.
he kept that secure
otherwise I'd be playing his character right now
12:28 AM also
when you put up your story
give me link
and I'll shoot it around
12:29 AM Patrick: Big Media publishes all sorts of classified and
other illegal shit that a) they shouldn't and b) I wouldn't dare
Patrick: As engaging as I find you, I'm not sure we see eye to eye on hacking
I'm not a hacker
let's put it this wway
I come from a military family
12:30 AM mostly air force
mostly bombers, up until 80s
they all blew up children in fighting fascism and communism
I just help hackers hack things to fight corruption
it's all, like, RELATIVE, man. You're just too, like, ESTABLISHMENT, maaaan.
12:31 AM srsly though
hacking is a very small part of what we do
Anon is chaning
we're into nation-building now
12:32 AM Patrick: I am indeed too establishment, I'll grant you
Patrick: I never wear beanies, for example
me: my second in command is a retired gov't lawyer
12:33 AM dude, I only wear polo shirts
I went to school with Bush kids
all the conservatives have me all wrong
Patrick: YOU WEAR A BEANIE. I'VE SEEN IT
me: oh, that
12:34 AM well
I wear ralph lauren jackets with it
also it's a running gag with Diary of Daedalus
before I befriended that tribe
they talked about my hair a lot
12:35 AM but it's mainly because it's actually snowing in Dallas
and I'm not big on that shit
you lose most heat through your head
12:36 AM also
anything interesting happen in blogosphere lately?
fights, drama, etc?
12:37 AM me: if he ever fucks with you again
I'll give you certain e-mails
Patrick: As long as they're not hacked!
Patrick: We did get into again somewhat recently
Maybe a month ago?
12:38 AM me: lol bout what?
Patrick: Charles Johnson was lying about me to try to get people to
threaten my job
me: oh, I saw that
Patrick: I noted that it was not the first time someone had done that
to me and referenced Goldstein obliquely
me: he lies about me too now
Patrick: He went apeshit
So I proved it
12:39 AM so Goldstein took time off from work to attack you, eh?
Patrick: He likes to pretend I went after him on Google and he never did
me: he'll fight you
by my count, he's killed like 300 people so far
assuming he followed through on threats
Patrick: He wrote a post with my name and job title -- several
actually -- and linked it dozens of times to bump it up on Google
12:40 AM let me know
Patrick: Since he denied trying to harm me professionally, I laid that out
me: oh, wait
he's already Google fucked
you should see the SAdly, No compilation
Patrick: Not as bad as me
me: are you?
Patrick: Google Patrick Frey
One of his bullshit posts is on the first page