21 June 2013
USA Drones Compilation
From: "Al Mac Wow" <macwheel99[at]wowway.com>
To: "'drone-list'" <drone-list[at]lists.stanford.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:08:00 -0500
Cc: 'Isaac Kramer' <ikramer[at]nacdl.org>
Subject: Re: [drone-list] Sen. Paul & FBI Director on Domestic Drone
It may be of interest to people correlating this info that:
2012 early, Congress directed FAA to issue rules for drones to be operated
in American National Air Space (NAS). This was part of the FAA Modernization
and Reform Act of 2012 (P.L. 112-95) designed to promote and facilitate the
use of civilian unmanned aircraft.
Most of us learned that hundreds of organizations had been issued FAA permission
to operate drones in USA.
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) sent FOIA to FAA requesting
identification of those organizations. Info has been trickling into
EFF, which has been sharing the results on their web site. Most of
the initial certificates, which the FAA told EFF about, were issued to government
agencies at all levels of government, and to colleges and universities.
Consequently, many of us following stories of domestic drone usage, knew
over a year ago, that the FBI was among the government agencies operating
drones in domestic US air space.
Muckrock, worked with EFF to send FOIA to the individual named
organizations, asking for clarification on how they planned to use their
drones. As that info trickles in, it also is shared on their web
Other groups did FOIA in parallel with EFF and Muckrock, such as the news
media within the cities and states where their local government agencies
had received drone usage permission.
Many activist groups have been hammering these gov agencies, seeking privacy
reassurance, which has been very slow to come out, because the pattern has
been to ignore privacy concerns until it seems like it may become a major
In addition to what EFF found from FAA about specific organizations directly
authorized to use drones for specific missions, there are loaners by one
agency to another, where the FAA authorization is to the loaning organization,
without any report to FAA or anyone else about the loaned scenarios.
An IG report found that CBP had been loaning its drones to many other federal
DHS is loaning its drones to many local police agencies.
Many institutions are flying drones without getting FAA permission.
I dont know what the #s are, but if the stories in the news media are
any indication, the vast majority of organizations flying drones in the USA,
are doing so without FAA authorization, even though the fines are astronomical
if caught, like $10,000.00 per day of violation.
News has come out that when US military and CIA personnel are being trained
in the use of military drones, they often practice, using innocent American
civilian vehicle traffic. Congress has asked the Secretary of Defense
for info regarding this, and that info is just about due to be delivered,
assuming the Pentagon decides to cooperate with Congress.
When we look at details of drone crashes (100+ counting), we learn that most
military and CIA drones are actually operated by personnel with government
sub-contractors. One of the best resources, for info about drone crashes
is Drone Wars UK library of drone resources.
Here is map of
bases inside USA allegedly used to control military and CIA drone usage
around the world. Here are
the military ones, with list of names of bases involved.
are links to 110 coming. They also talk about 88 actually operating
right now (88-64=24 not on earlier list.). Here is info about
bases for drones around the world. All this info
is as of when it was found out. Reality is constantly evolving.
of US cities, where various institutions got FAA approval to fly drones
over US airspace. This is as of April 2012. Here is
December 2012 update. Here is revised again Feb
Lots more have been added since then, not in public documents yet.
The civilian operations map does not, of course, include classified operations
by various branches of the military, CIA, NSA, Customs and Border patrol,
FBI, DEA, etc. alphabet soup of agencies, which may be operating from other
than the 64 military bases, or 88, or whatever the # is.
Dont forget the
map of USA constitution free zone, based on the notion
that the border can include any place within 100 miles of the border, which
includes most of the population of the USA.
Alister William Macintyre
downloaded as CRS Drones in NAS 2012 Sept. CRS =
Congressional Research Service; FAS = Federation of American
Scientists; NAS = US National Air Space.
= List of places in USA found to have drones, then been issued a FOIA request
seeking info on what they are being used for, info they should have already
shared with FAA, so it should not be a big deal to make a copy. Many
of these org are dysfunctional when it comes to responding to FOIA about
 Drone Wars UK see Drone
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