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MV 20010831
Status:
CLOSED
Start Date:
2001-07-03
End Date:
2001-08-31 (2pm GMT)
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ETSI Document Number:  ETSI ES 201 671 V2.1.1 (2001-07)  
Work Item Reference:  RES/SEC-003009
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Technical Body:  SEC LI -- Lawful Interception    
Title:
Telecommunications security;
Lawful Interception (LI);
Handover interface for the lawful interception of telecommunications traffic

COMPILED RESULTS 
   YES  NO  ABSTAIN  TOTAL 
   Full members  ALL members  Full members  ALL members  Full members  ALL members  Full members  ALL members 
Count  50 50 3 3 10 10 63 63
Percentage  79.37% 79.37% 4.76% 4.76% 15.87% 15.87% 100.00% 100.00%
Weighted Count(2)  792 792 120 120 143 143 1055 1055
Weighted Percentage(2)  75.07% 75.07% 11.37% 11.37% 13.55% 13.55% 100.00% 100.00%



Final Results(1) for Full members only  86.84%  APPROVED  
Final Results(1) for all members  86.84%  APPROVED  



(1) Final Results: ABSTAIN Votes are not taken into account. The formulation used is:
Sum of Weighted YES Votes / (Sum of Weighted YES Votes + Sum of Weighted NO Votes)
For a vote to be approved, this number must be greater than 0.71 ( > 71.00 %)
(2) Weighted Count and Weighted Percentage are based on individual voting weights



DETAILED RESULTS 
   Date:  Time:  Organisation:  Country:  Voting Weight:  Choice:  Comments File:  Voter: 
2001/08/20 09:00:28 Airdata AG DE (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Martin Arndt
2001/07/09 09:48:43 ALCATEL S.A. FR (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Alistair Urie
2001/08/31 15:52:02 ALCATEL SEL AG DE (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Frank Rahe
2001/07/18 21:58:08 ANUIT IT (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Nicola Colecchia
2001/08/27 11:30:17 ASCOM AG CH 13 Approved No Comments Mr. Beat Luescher
  

Remarks:  - Section 11.2 Security Mechanisms, second last paragraph: It is true that the integrity of data can be achieved by using a hash function. This can also be achieved by using an other checksum mechanism like a CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Checksum). Such schemes (including the hash function approach) are not useful for achieving data integrity from a security point of view. The reason is, that everybody who knows the data integrity algorithm can generate the fingerprint of the data. Therefore an attacker can change the data, recalculate the data integrity checksum and send this new data to the recipient. The recipient can successfully verify the fingerprint although the data integrity - from a security point of view - is not given anymore. The text in the document is misleading and does not describe data integrity in a security point of view. If the data integrity checksum is used standalone and not protected by any other cryptographic means (e.g. if it is used as a Message Authentication Code) then a secret, which is only know by the sender and the recipient must be applied during the calculation of the fingerprint. A possible solution would be to use a hash function which requires a key to calculate the fingerprint of its input data. - Section 11.2 Security Mechanisms, last paragraph: The text does not describe very well the authentication mechanism based on public key cryptography. The text seems to describe a mixture of data encryption and data authentication. The public key of any user is normally not used in the authentication process. Everybody (user X or an attacker) can encrypt something with the public key of user Y. User Y has no possibilities to find out who encrypted this data. The operation in which the public key is used is normally called 'data encryption'. Data authentication is achieved when user X uses its own private key. Any user can verify the authenticity of the data by encrypting the data with the public key of user X. This process is normally called 'data signing/making a digital signature'.

2001/08/07 11:03:31 BELGACOM BE (E.U.) 30 Abstain No Comments Mr. Jean Claude Raskinet
2001/07/06 14:36:08 BIPT BE (E.U.) 18 Approved No Comments Mr. Freddy Baert
2001/08/23 10:59:38 BMWi DE (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mrs. Martina Welcher
2001/08/03 12:43:05 BT GB (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Archie Smith
10  2001/08/17 19:03:38 CFI FR (E.U.) 1 Abstain No Comments Mr. Serge Clauzel
11  2001/07/18 10:16:48 Copenhagen Fire Brigade DK (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Kurt Christensen
12  2001/07/24 10:47:59 Czech Telecommunication Office CZ 9 Approved No Comments Mr. Antonin Mareska
13  2001/08/31 07:33:33 DEPT. COMMUNICATIONS LATVIA LV 1 Approved No Comments Ms. Inara Rudaka
14  2001/08/29 11:13:49 Deutsche Telekom AG DE (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Ms. Claudia Schulz
15  2001/07/10 12:33:48 Deutsche Telekom MobilNet DE (E.U.) 30 Approved No Comments Mr. Martin Buechter
16  2001/08/29 15:21:38 DIGITEL TELEKOM BA 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Musa Suljevic
17  2001/08/28 10:33:36 DOLPHIN TELECOMMUNICATIONS LTD GB (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Torben Themsen
18  2001/07/20 15:35:06 DTI GB (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Oliver Wheaton
19  2001/07/30 18:28:27 FED. MINISTRY FOR TRANSPORT AT (E.U.) 18 Approved No Comments Mr. Walter C. Marxt
20  2001/08/31 07:46:43 France Telecom FR (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Paul Gonin
21  2001/08/28 10:26:38 INFINEON TECHNOLOGIES DE (E.U.) 13 Approved No Comments Mrs. Michèle Brazda
22  2001/08/03 18:41:24 Inmarsat GB (E.U.) 3 Approved No Comments Mr. Peter Dunning
23  2001/08/13 12:02:08 Institute of Telecommunication PL 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Wlodzimierz Barjasz
24  2001/08/30 15:44:09 JSC Intellect Telecom RU 1 Approved No Comments Mrs. Irina V. Kreinguel
25  2001/08/08 15:22:03 KPN NL (E.U.) 45 NOT Approved No Comments Mrs. Willie Krapels
  

Remarks:  Reviewed product Title : Handover Interface for the Lawful Interception of telecommunication traffic Legenda Code : ETSI ES 201 671 Categories (for detailed findings): Version : final draft v2.1.1 1 Inadmissible, adjustment required Date : 2000-07 2 Major, adjustment required : 3 Minor, textual imperfection Author(s) : ETSI TC Security WG Lawful Interception 4 Remark : Reviewers Rev. # Name Company/department Date Time Spend 1 Peter van der Arend KPN OVN 7 August 2001 General recommendation ES 201 671 is under ETSI Membership Voting. The only way to get modifications into ES 201 671 is to vote against the publication of the present final draft v2.1.1. There are no major objections against the specification, however the specification needs several modifications as indicated below and the specification contains several clauses that are not completed in this version of the specification. Detailed findings Comment reviewers Feedback author Nr. Paragraph Page Finding, comment and recommendation Cat. Rev. # Adapted No / version 1 2 11 Reference [53] shall be "void". TR 101 876 is not referenced and is similar to Annex F 3 2 6 19 "...are defined in the clauses below" Which clauses are involved ? Clauses 6.1 to 6.2.2 ? 3 3 6.2 20 The Communication Identity Number (CIN) is indicated as Optional. The CIN is mandatory for the IRI (as indicated in Clause 6.2.2). The indication "optional" has to be removed (see also next issue). 2 4 6.2.2 21 The Communication Identity Number (CIN) is indicated as "Optional". It is also stated that the CIN is mandatory for the IRI in specific cases. This is conflicting and confusing. The indication "optional" has to be removed. It could be added that the CIN is optional for inclusion of the CC (if that is the intention). 2 5 8 22 Last sentence of the 1st paragraph is indicating "e.g. if an other party is not available it need not to be requested.......". This example is not clear and can be removed from the text. 2 6 8.2 23 2) The IRI-END record is generated at the end of a communication or communication attempt. The present statement is only indication the communication attempt. 3) Same for the IRI-CONTINUE record. 2 7 8.2 23 The 3rd paragraph and 6th paragraph: "For some packet oriented data ...." is purely related to GPRS and has be removed to the Packet related Annex B. 3 8 A 27 "64 k based" must be "64 kbit/s based" 3 9 A.2 27 The statement for the HI1 interface port should be the same as in clause B.2: "No additions according to clause 7." 1 10 A.3.2.1 28 Table A.3.1 indicates the ASN.1 name of the "Version indication". Only "Version1" is indicated. It can also be "Version2’. 2 11 A.5.3 40 There is no underlining or any other indication in Table A.5.1 as indication for the served user as stated in the 1st paragraph. 3 12 A.7 49 The statement that this ES is not covering fixed network technologies suggests the impression that LI for the fixed network is not covered at all. However the whole ES including clauses A.1 to A.6 is covering LI of ISDN networks. Please add a text explaining the intention of this Clause. 1 13 B.1 53 If "in addition to clause 6 at present no Specific identifiers for Packet switched network are defined" then that could be stated, in stead of not covered. 2

26  2001/07/17 10:28:19 LATVIAN MOBILE TELEPHONE LV 2 Approved No Comments Mr. Gunars Danbergs
27  2001/08/21 14:10:01 LITHUANIAN STANDARDS BOARD LT 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Brunonas Sickus
28  2001/07/26 15:58:34 MANNESMANN Mobilfunk GmbH DE (E.U.) 30 Approved No Comments Mr. Gerd-Hinrich Grotelüschen
29  2001/08/10 15:57:52 MARCONI COMMUNICATIONS GB (E.U.) 30 Approved No Comments Mr. Gerry Lawrence
30  2001/08/13 08:34:16 Marconi Communications GmbH DE (E.U.) 3 Approved No Comments Mr. Wolfgang Nobis
31  2001/08/30 14:30:42 MAX.MOBIL. TELEKOM. AT (E.U.) 9 Abstain No Comments Mr. Werner Holzmayer
32  2001/07/04 20:28:56 MICROCELL CONNEXIONS INC. CA 1 Abstain No Comments Mr. Venkatesh Sampath
33  2001/08/08 13:19:24 MINISTERIO DE CIENCIA ES (E.U.) 37 Approved No Comments Mr. Antonio Fernandez Paniagua
34  2001/08/30 08:35:48 MINISTERO DELLE COMUNICAZIONI IT (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Giuseppe Fedeli
35  2001/07/16 11:44:03 Ministry of Transport and Comm BG 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Emilian Pipanov
36  2001/08/02 15:08:32 MOBILTEL AD BG 3 Approved No Comments Mr. Valentin Radev
37  2001/07/04 15:44:09 MOBITEL d.d. SI 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Marko Smolic
38  2001/08/30 14:58:22 MOTOROLA S.A. FR (E.U.) 18 Abstain No Comments Mr. Christian Ollivry
39  2001/08/28 09:06:33 NATIONAL TELECOM AGENCY DK (E.U.) 18 Abstain No Comments Mr. Lang J. Nielsen
40  2001/08/27 09:11:49 NOKIA Corporation FI (E.U.) 45 NOT Approved No Comments Mr. Kari Lang
   Remarks:  Nokia comments have been forwarded to TC SEC LI.
41  2001/08/15 09:50:25 NORTEL NETWORKS (EUROPE) GB (E.U.) 24 Approved No Comments Mr. John Phillips
42  2001/08/02 13:24:20 Nortel Networks Germany GmbH DE (E.U.) 9 Approved No Comments Mr. Norbert Schaefer
43  2001/08/27 11:51:06 Norwegian P & T Authority NO 18 Approved No Comments Mr. Ornulf Kristiansen
44  2001/08/31 10:42:43 PRO TELECOM CH 1 Abstain No Comments Mr. Josef Erni
45  2001/07/04 10:34:41 SIEMENS AG DE (E.U.) 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Dieter Kaiser
46  2001/08/24 10:30:38 SIEMENS ATEA NV BE (E.U.) 2 Abstain ES201671_Rem_V2.doc Mr. Jozef Massonnet
47  2001/08/28 12:02:05 SLOVENSKE TELEKOMUNIKACIE a.s. SK 6 Approved No Comments Mrs. Tatiana Matichova
48  2001/08/07 07:12:39 STC BG 2 Approved No Comments Mr. Peter Popov
49  2001/07/05 12:54:04 SUNRISE COMMUNICATIONS AG CH 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Josef Anton Schmid
50  2001/08/15 12:39:39 Tecono Oy FI (E.U.) 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Pekka Niskanen
51  2001/07/06 13:00:50 TELCOM RU 1 Approved No Comments Mrs. Marina Kretova
52  2001/08/28 10:00:43 TELECOM. ADMIN. CENTRE FI (E.U.) 18 Abstain No Comments Ms. Elina Miettinen
53  2001/08/27 12:55:34 TELEFONICA de España S.A. ES (E.U.) 45 Abstain No Comments Mr. Julio Remacha Gete
54  2001/08/17 12:14:36 Telekom Austria AG AT (E.U.) 30 NOT Approved comment_ta_LI.doc Dr. Waltraud Muellner
55  2001/08/27 10:55:06 TELENOR AS NO 24 Approved No Comments Ms. Annie Liholt
56  2001/07/12 11:07:53 TELEWEST COMMUNICATIONS P.L.C. GB (E.U.) 13 Approved No Comments Mr. Jim Price
57  2001/08/24 15:01:53 TELIA AB SE (E.U.) 37 Approved No Comments Mr. Bo Hjelm
58  2001/08/31 14:07:02 TELKOM SA LIMITED ZA 9 Approved No Comments Mr. Thami Msimango
59  2001/08/28 12:34:55 TESLA Telekomunikace Ltd CZ 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Jiri Zenisek
60  2001/08/28 12:28:32 VIAG INTERKOM GmbH & Co DE (E.U.) 18 Approved No Comments Mr. Axel Stossno
61  2001/07/04 13:57:54 VIP-NET GSM d.o.o. HR 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Stephen Corkovic
62  2001/08/14 11:18:20 VNIIS RU 1 Approved No Comments Mr. Vasily Borisov
63  2001/08/22 21:45:47 WORLDCOM US 45 Approved No Comments Mr. Peter P. Guggina


PARTICIPATION 
  Participation Rate Weighted Participation
Full
Members
Number of Participating Full members   63    

 = 
 =  9.52%
Number of Full members   662    
Sum of Participating Full members Weights   1055    

 = 
 =  40.86%
Sum of Full members Weights   2582    
Associate
members
Number of Participating Associate members   0    

 = 
 =  0.00%
Number of Associate members   174    
Sum of Participating Associate members Weights   0    

 = 
 =  0.00%
Sum of Associate members Weights   353    
All
Members
Total Number of Participating members   63    

 = 
 =  7.54%
Total Number of members   836    
Sum of All Participating members Weights   1055    

 = 
 =  35.95%
Sum of All members Weights   2935    


Article 12.2 of the ETSI Rules of Procedures :
"... there is no required minimum number of votes cast."
Thus there are no quorum requirements for ES/EG Approval.