14 April 1999

To: jya@pipeline.com, gnu@toad.com, declan@well.com, ann_harrison@cw.com,
        cryptography@c2.net, cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Day 2 of the CJ vs. Jeff Gordon show 
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:08:33 -0700
From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>

(A few folks sent me puzzled queries.  Background on this case
is at http://jya.com/crypto.htm and http://jya.com/cejfiles.htm).

I'm still in Tacoma.  I was not called to testify today.  At 9:30AM I
was told I didn't need to come back til 1PM, so I spent the time
online, away from the courthouse.  At 1, I was deferred until 1:30.
From 1:30 until about 4:30 I sat on a bench reading, outside the

I brought thick and interesting books (the latest John le Carre' spy
thriller, a John D. MacDonald murder mystery, and This Business of
Music by Krasilovsky -- good for if you want to know the shape of
the music industry before MP3 changes it).

The day's testimony was reportedly from Canadian officers who searched
Carl Johnson's house and seized computers from it.  An interesting bit
of side news is that apparently you can't challenge the
Constitutionality of a search done overseas -- even though US
prosecutors are introducing the results of the search as evidence to
convict you with in the US.  Seemed like a big loophole to me.  Any
lawyers care to comment?

I hope to testify tomorrow.