7 March 2006
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 1                      UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
 2                          ALEXANDRIA DIVISION
 3   UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,     .       Criminal No. 1:01cr455
 4        vs.                      .       Alexandria, Virginia
                                  .       February 6, 2006
 5   ZACARIAS MOUSSAOUI,           .       2:41 p.m.
    a/k/a Shaqil, a/k/a           .
 6   Abu Khalid al Sahrawi,        .
 7                  Defendant.     .       2:30 Session
 8   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
 9                        TRANSCRIPT OF JURY TRIAL
10                      UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
                                  DAVID J. NOVAK, AUSA
13                                 DAVID RASKIN, AUSA
                                  United States Attorney's Office
14                                 2100 Jamieson Avenue
                                  Alexandria, VA 22314
16                                 Assistant Federal Public Defender
                                  Office of the Public Defender
17                                 One Capital Square
                                  830 East Main Street, Suite 1100
18                                 Richmond, VA 23219
19                                 KENNETH P. TROCCOLI
                                  ANNE M. CHAPMAN
20                                 Assistant Federal Public Defenders
                                  Office of the Federal Public
21                                 Defender
                                  1650 King Street
22                                 Alexandria, VA 22314
24                            (Pages 1 - 17)

 1   APPEARANCES:  (Cont'd.)
                                  P.O. Box 903
 3                                 107 East Washington Street
                                  Middleburg, VA 20118
 4                                   and
                                  ALAN H. YAMAMOTO, ESQ.
 5                                 643 South Washington Street
                                  Alexandria, VA 22314-3032
 7                                 U.S. District Court, Fifth Floor
                                  401 Courthouse Square
 8                                 Alexandria, VA 22314

 1                         P R O C E E D I N G S
 2                            (Defendant present.)
 3             THE COURT:  Criminal Case 2001-455, United States of
 4   America v. Zacarias Moussaoui.  Will counsel please note their
 5   appearance for the record.
 6             MR. SPENCER:  Good afternoon, Your Honor.  Rob Spencer,
 7   David Novak, and David Raskin for the United States.
 8             THE COURT:  Good afternoon.
 9             MR. ZERKIN:  Good afternoon, Judge.  Gerald Zerkin, Ed
10   MacMahon, Alan Yamamoto, Ken Troccoli, and Anne Chapman for the
11   defense.
12             THE COURT:  All right.
13             THE DEFENDANT:  No, they are not for my defense.  I
14   oppose them being my defender, and I will take the stand and tell
15   the whole truth about my involvement.
16             THE COURT:  Mr. Moussaoui --
17             THE DEFENDANT:  And I have nothing to do with them,
18   okay?
19             THE COURT:  Mr. Moussaoui --
20             THE DEFENDANT:  For four year I oppose them to be my
21   lawyer.  I'm al Qaeda, they're American, and I have nothing to do
22   with them, okay?
23             THE COURT:  Mr. Moussaoui, that's enough.  I'll ask you
24   to go with the marshals.  You've been told several times today you
25   are not to be speaking at this time.

 1             Gentlemen, if you'd please remove him?
 2             THE DEFENDANT:  Four years -- I will take the stand.  I
 3   will take the stand and testify at this trial.
 4                            (Defendant removed from courtroom.)
 5             THE COURT:  Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for
 6   appearing this afternoon.  You have been summonsed here to be
 7   considered for jury duty in the case of The United States of
 8   America v. Zacarias Moussaoui, also known as Shaqil, also known as
 9   Abu Khalid al Sahrawi, who on April 22, 2005, pled guilty to three
10   conspiracies at issue in this trial.
11             The first conspiracy is conspiracy to commit acts of
12   terrorism transcending national boundaries; the second is
13   conspiracy to destroy aircraft; the third, conspiracy to use
14   weapons of mass destruction in connection with the September 11,
15   2001 attacks in New York and Northern Virginia and the hijacking
16   of four aircraft and their crashes in New York, Pennsylvania, and
17   Virginia.  Each of these three convictions exposes Mr. Moussaoui
18   to a possible sentence of death.
19             It will be the duty of the jury whose selection begins
20   today to decide whether Mr. Moussaoui should be sentenced to death
21   or be sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of
22   release.  Based on Mr. Moussaoui's guilty pleas, there are no
23   other sentences possible for those three conspiracies.
24             Obviously, deciding whether to recommend a sentence of
25   death is the most serious decision that a jury is ever called upon

 1   to make in our legal system.  The gravity of this decision is
 2   reflected in the multi-step process set out in the Federal Death
 3   Penalty Statute.
 4             Just because a person is guilty of a capital crime, that
 5   is, a crime for which death is a possible penalty, does not mean
 6   that person should be sentenced to death.  Instead, the jury must
 7   make specific factual findings about the defendant and what he
 8   specifically did in order to impose a death penalty.
 9             In this case, the first finding is whether the
10   defendant's specific intentional conduct makes him death eligible.
11   More precisely, the jury will be asked to decide whether the
12   defendant intentionally participated in an act, which the
13   government argues was his lying to agents after his arrest on
14   August 16, 2001, which directly results in the deaths that
15   occurred during the airplane hijackings and crashes on
16   September 11, 2001.
17             If the jury were to find that Mr. Moussaoui did
18   intentionally do such an act and that those deaths on September 11
19   were a direct result of that act, the second phase of the trial
20   would involve the presentation and consideration of evidence of
21   aggravating and mitigating factors, and the question of whether
22   Mr. Moussaoui should be sentenced either to life imprisonment
23   without the possibility of release or death.
24             Aggravating factors are facts about the defendant or the
25   crime which the government believes favor the death penalty.

 1   Aggravating factors are of two types -- statutory reasons that are
 2   set forth in the death penalty statute, and non-statutory, or
 3   other reasons which are drafted by the government.
 4             Mitigating factors are facts about the circumstances of
 5   the crime or the defendant's role in it or about his background or
 6   character which the defense believes favor a sentence of life
 7   imprisonment without possibility of release.
 8             In determining the appropriate punishment, each juror
 9   will have to consider the aggravating factors which have been
10   proven beyond a reasonable doubt and any mitigating factors that
11   the juror believes exist before making a determination as to the
12   appropriate punishment.  The jury itself does not actually impose
13   the final sentence.  That will be the Court's responsibility, but
14   it must impose the sentence found appropriate by the jury.
15             Now, this is only an overview of the law applicable to
16   the jury's consideration of the death penalty.  The jury will
17   receive a much more detailed set of instructions from the Court
18   during the course of the proceedings.
19             Because this case will involve evidence about al Qaeda
20   and the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the
21   Pentagon, the case has received a great deal of publicity over the
22   past few years.  There's also a large article about it on the
23   front page of today's Washington Post -- some of you are nodding,
24   so I guess some of you have already read it -- and there will be
25   coverage this evening.

 1             I assume that every one of you is aware of what happened
 2   on September 11 and has watched or read extensive media coverage
 3   about that day and has watched news reports or read about al
 4   Qaeda, and I expect many, if not all, of you have heard or read
 5   something about this case and this defendant.  Such media exposure
 6   does not necessarily disqualify you from being eligible to serve
 7   on the jury, but it is obviously an issue we need to probe
 8   carefully.
 9             The problem with pretrial exposure to information about
10   a defendant or issues in a case is simply this:  Persons on trial
11   must be judged not on the basis of what is in the news or popular
12   media, but rather on the hard evidence presented in the courtroom
13   during the trial.
14             If the pretrial publicity to which you have been exposed
15   has caused you to form such strong opinions about the defendant or
16   issues in the case that you think you might not be able to put
17   those questions entirely aside and listen to and evaluate the
18   trial evidence with an open mind, then you must so advise the
19   Court on the jury questionnaire that I will soon describe for you.
20             Similarly, the death penalty is a very controversial
21   issue about which many Americans hold strong views.  Simply having
22   thought about or listened to or read about the death penalty will
23   not disqualify you from being a juror in this case unless your
24   views are so firmly set as to make it difficult for you to
25   evaluate this case on the evidence presented during the trial and

 1   apply the law given to you by the Court, even if you disagree with
 2   the law.
 3             To help the lawyers and the Court select a jury that can
 4   objectively listen to the evidence and decide the case solely on
 5   the basis of the evidence produced in this courtroom during the
 6   trial and within the law as the Court explains it, we have
 7   prepared a questionnaire that you will be asked to fill out this
 8   afternoon.  Your totally candid answers to the questions in the
 9   questionnaire are essential to the government and Mr. Moussaoui
10   receiving a fair sentencing hearing.
11             To ensure that you feel comfortable answering these
12   questions honestly, I have determined that your identities will
13   not be revealed to any trial participants or to the public; in
14   other words, you will be an anonymous jury.  Only limited members
15   of the court staff know your names.  That is why you have been
16   given a four-digit number as your identifier, and it's very
17   important to hold onto that number.
18             Although some of the questions may appear to be of a
19   personal nature, please understand that the Court and the parties
20   must learn enough information about each juror's background and
21   experiences to select a fair and impartial jury.  Your cooperation
22   is of vital importance.  Please answer each question as fully and
23   completely as possible.  Your complete candor and honesty is
24   necessary so that both the prosecution and the defense will have a
25   meaningful opportunity to select an impartial jury.

 1             You must answer all the questions to the best of your
 2   ability.  If you do not know the answer to a question, simply
 3   write, "I don't know."  If the question does not apply to you, you
 4   can write "N/A" for not applicable or put "not applicable."  And
 5   if you do not understand a question, just write "don't
 6   understand."  Please do not ask court personnel to explain the
 7   question, because they are not permitted to do that.
 8             Do not leave any question blank.  It is important that
 9   you answer -- that your answers be yours alone, and if you need
10   more space for your responses or wish to make further comments
11   regarding any of your answers, please use the explanation sheets
12   at the end of the questionnaire.  Put the number of the question
13   you are answering on the explanation sheet before you write the
14   response or comment.
15             Please keep in mind that there are no right or wrong
16   answers, only complete and incomplete answers.  Complete answers
17   are far more helpful than incomplete answers.  And remember, you
18   will be sworn to give true and complete answers to all questions.
19             Now, unless the question states otherwise, the fact that
20   a particular question is asked does not imply that the subject
21   matter of the question is an issue in this case.  As you read the
22   questions, you are not to draw any inferences about the issues
23   which must be decided in this case.
24             Please do not write on the back of any page, and please
25   print or write legibly, and be sure to put your juror number on

 1   the upper right corner of each page.
 2             When you have finished answering the questionnaire, you
 3   must sign it with your name.  On that signature page, you are
 4   affirming the accuracy of your answers.  That page will be removed
 5   by court staff and will not be shown to any party.
 6             Now, part of the questionnaire includes a list of all
 7   persons who may be called as witnesses to testify.  You must put
 8   your juror number on that witness list and return it to the court
 9   staff with your questionnaire.  You may not disclose the name of
10   any of those witnesses to anyone.  The court personnel will advise
11   you when you may leave once you have -- once they have collected
12   your questionnaire and the witness list from you.
13             Now, I also want to make sure even though there's a
14   question about this in the questionnaire, that you know who the
15   attorneys are who will be presenting this trial to you and also
16   the names of their staff who may be assisting them, so I'm going
17   to ask the lawyers who are in court today to reintroduce
18   themselves to you, and if you think you might know any of the
19   lawyers or the people working with them in any personal or
20   business capacity, you need to make sure you indicate that on the
21   questionnaire.
22             Mr. Spencer?
23             MR. SPENCER:  Thank you, Your Honor.
24             Good afternoon.  My name is Rob Spencer.  I'm an
25   assistant United States attorney.  My office is here in

 1   Alexandria.
 2             MR. RASKIN:  Good afternoon.  My name is David Raskin.
 3   I'm an assistant United States attorney in the Southern District
 4   of New York, and my office is in New York City.
 5             MR. NOVAK:  Good afternoon, folks.  My name is Dave
 6   Novak, and I'm an assistant United States attorney here in the
 7   Eastern District of Virginia, but my office is normally located in
 8   Richmond.
 9             MR. SPENCER:  In addition, we have the following people
10   who will be helping us prepare for this trial:  John Van
11   Lonkhuyzen and Greg Miller, they work at the Department of Justice
12   in Washington; Gerard Francisco, who is from the Southern District
13   of New York, New York City; and Joel Alter, Lynn Johnson, and
14   Nancy Kramp from our office here in Alexandria.  Thank you.
15             THE COURT:  Mr. Zerkin?
16             MR. ZERKIN:  Good afternoon.  I am Jerry Zerkin.  I am
17   with the -- I'm an assistant federal public defender for the
18   Eastern District of Virginia.
19             MR. MAC MAHON:  Good afternoon.  My name is Edward
20   MacMahon.  I'm an attorney in private practice and a
21   court-appointed lawyer in this case.  My office is in Middleburg,
22   Virginia, and I work here in Virginia and in Washington, D.C.
23             MR. YAMAMOTO:  Good afternoon.  My name is Alan
24   Yamamoto.  I'm a sole practitioner in Alexandria.
25             MR. TROCCOLI:  Good afternoon.  My name is Ken Troccoli,

 1   and I'm an assistant federal public defender here in Alexandria.
 2             MS. CHAPMAN:  Hello, my name is Anne Chapman.  I'm an
 3   assistant federal public defender in Alexandria, Virginia.
 4             MR. ZERKIN:  In addition, the following people have
 5   helped us with this case and may be with us in court during these
 6   proceedings:  Pamela Bishop, Sandra Schidlo, and Gerylee Baron.
 7             THE COURT:  Thank you.
 8             Ladies and gentlemen, after you complete the
 9   questionnaire, the next step will be for some of you to return to
10   the courthouse for more specific individual questioning by the
11   Court.  The first of these individual questioning sessions will
12   begin on Wednesday, February 15, 2006, at 9:30 a.m., so you are
13   all free to go to work or otherwise keep your normal schedule
14   until your next time to report.
15             Individual questioning will continue daily until we
16   have -- approximately 85 jurors are found eligible.  To find out
17   whether you have to return for individual questioning and, if so,
18   when to return, you must call the jury information number given to
19   you by the court staff.  If you are asked to return for individual
20   questioning, you should expect to be at the courthouse for up to
21   four hours.  You will have to report either for a morning session,
22   they will start at 9:30 a.m., or an afternoon session, which
23   starts at 2 p.m.
24             Immediately after the individual questioning session,
25   you will be told whether you have been excused or would need to

 1   return for the final round of jury selection, scheduled to start
 2   at 10 a.m. on Monday, March 6, 2006, in a different courtroom,
 3   it's actually courtroom 700.
 4             Now, on March 6, 18 of you will ultimately be chosen to
 5   hear this case, although only 12 of you will actually deliberate
 6   and issue the final decision.  The other six are alternates.  We
 7   use alternates in long trials to be sure that if someone gets sick
 8   or for some other reason cannot continue as a juror, we are sure
 9   to have the 12 jurors the law requires make the decision at issue
10   in this trial.  No one is designated an alternate until just
11   before the deliberations begin.
12             If you are selected on March 6 to be one of the 18
13   jurors, you will need to remain at the courthouse all day, because
14   we expect opening statements and some witness testimony to start
15   Monday afternoon.  Lunch will be provided for you, so do not worry
16   about bringing food unless you have special food needs.
17             After March 6, the trial will be held from 9:30 a.m. to
18   5:30 p.m. on Mondays through Thursdays.  If we stay on schedule,
19   we will not hold court on Fridays until the jury begins its
20   deliberations.  I will try to give you several days' notice if we
21   plan to hold court on Fridays.
22             Each phase of this trial is expected to last several
23   weeks, which is why you were initially advised that the trial
24   could go into late May.  However, I will have a better time
25   estimate for you after the trial begins.  Obviously, we need

 1   jurors who can serve for the entire trial.
 2             From today on, until you are notified that you have been
 3   excused from this case, you must avoid reading, listening to, or
 4   in any other respect being exposed to anything about this case,
 5   the attacks on September 11, or the death penalty.  You may not
 6   investigate any of the facts related to this case or view the
 7   Court's website, which has a section on this case.  You are not to
 8   discuss or communicate about this case or any of the above issues
 9   with anyone.
10             I have issued an order that prohibits anyone, including
11   members of the media and the general public, from trying to
12   contact, interview, identify, or in any way communicate with
13   potential jurors.  If you believe someone has tried to do so, call
14   the Court immediately.
15             Lastly, the duty some of you will be asked to perform,
16   that is, to sit in judgment of another human being and decide
17   whether he should live or die, is an awesome responsibility not to
18   be taken lightly.  You must have the moral integrity to follow the
19   law, even if you disagree with it, and you must find the facts
20   fairly, even if you do not personally like the conclusion to which
21   they lead.  You must be able to withstand any bias, prejudice, or
22   sympathy for either side of this case or any public opinion.
23             And you saw this afternoon a brief example of some of
24   Mr. Moussaoui's behavior.  You have to ask yourselves whether what
25   you saw in court today might affect your ability to be impartial

 1   in judging him, and if so, you must clearly indicate that on the
 2   questionnaire.
 3             You must agree that your only goal as a juror in this
 4   case is to reach a fair and just decision.  That is what our legal
 5   system expects of its jurors, and that is what this Court expects
 6   from you.
 7             All right, counsel, if you'll approach the bench,
 8   please?
 9             (Bench conference on the record.)
10   [--- Redacted 

23   ---]         (End of bench conference.)
24             THE COURT:  All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you will
25   all now stand, the clerk is going to administer an affirmation to

 1   you under which you are going to promise to truthfully answer the
 2   questionnaire and to abide by the Court's orders as given to you
 3   in these instructions just now.
 4                            (Jury Pool affirmed.)
 5             THE COURT:  Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.  Now,
 6   you-all can stay in the courtroom to fill out the questionnaires.
 7   We're going to recess court at this time.  Thank you.
 8                            (Which were all the proceedings
 9                             had at this time.)
11                      CERTIFICATE OF THE REPORTER
12        I certify that the foregoing is a correct transcript of the
13   record of proceedings in the above-entitled matter.
                                       Anneliese J. Thomson