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"Justin Perras" Disavows Cryptome Hack
10 October 2010
http://pastebin.com/7yVjiyMb"TEAM KRYOGENIKS MEMBERS DOX
Fucking bunch of script kiddie newbs who think they're elite
Ghost Rider"Includes "Virus" Nieves and "Null" Perras personal information
10 October 2010 Add:
Court documents on Justin Perras' first supervised release, indictment, arrest, removal, sentencing and second supervised release. The indictment describes the hacking capabilities of Perras -- similar to those allegedly used by the alleged Cryptome hackers -- which Perras was forbidden to use during three years of supervised release which ended in March 2010:
Order Setting Conditions for Release in Masschusetts |
perras-2006-0622.pdf |
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| Indictment with Four Others in Florida | perras-2006-0727.pdf | 784KB |
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| Warrant for Arrest | perras-2006-1013.pdf | 69KB |
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| Order of Removal to Florida | perras-2006-1113.pdf | 17KB |
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| Sentencing and Conditions for Supervised Release | perras-2007-0313.pdf | 262KB |
Relevant: At the HOPE conference panel on snitches 18 July 2010, a panelist described how to read court documents to tell that an indicted hacker, or one released with only a warning, had been converted to a snitch for the government. This from one of several on the panel sent to prison by a fellow hacker's concealed testimony, a victim who had also been offered a deal to do the same, but after refusing to accept a deal, had a sentence maximized. At the same panel it was stated that conventional wisdom among hackers is that 25% of them are snitches. Using these odds at least one of the alleged Cryptome hackers is a snitch (see below) who initiated the alleged attack (which is not likely to have happened as reported) to entrap the others, and was surely paid a fee to do so to create disarray and suspicion among the not yet nabbed. This is standard law enforcement, spy and counterspy means and methods. Buy the conference video from 2600.com.
http://www.spywared.com/news/kryogeniks-gang-in-prison-for-comcast-hijack-724.html
28 September 2010
Two men of Kryogeniks gang were sentenced for 18 months in prison for Comcast.com domain hijack. There [sic] third one, James Robert Black Jr., 21, was sentenced in August to four month in prison and made a pact to collaborate with FBI in trying to caught [sic] other partners in crime. Christopher Allen Lewis, 20, of Delaware and Michael Paul Nebel, 28, got 18 month sentence in prison and ordered to pay $89,778.13 each.
oh shit kyrogeniks going down for the comcast hacks
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/comcast-hack/
11-29-2009
[Selected excerpts on snitches]
Sinz: kryogeniks been known to snitch since me and xom got busted in 2k5
Sinz: its not that i dislike virus, its just that he's a lil xom clone in that they both snitch when pressed.
SippieCup: definitely snitching.
SippieCup: edit: i take back my previous snitching statment "definitely snitching" and in replace i say probably. it also could jsur be that they are pleading guilty. this is why you dont fuck with big names like this. they should have just edited the DNS to a server like they did and put an ad on it then every other link go back to the IP of comcast. probably could have gotten away with it for a couple hours before comcast noticed and comcast would not have come down as hard as they did due to no loss in service... still would have gone after them though
Craig: ebk snitched
Sis: [quoting] EBK slept for an hour Wednesday night; Defiant for 20 minutes. Even as the attack was in progress, the hackers began to feel the weight of their actions. Both say they’ve been raided by law enforcement before. “I slept in my clothes, because the last time they came, I was in my underwear with my dong hanging out and shit,” says Defiant.
Rafael Nadal: Rofl are you guys real bitching about snitching? This isn't the mafia, there's no omerta or any kind of code of honor. The homo() is right. Actions have consequences. If they try to save themselves by making a deal, good for them. Snitching shouldn't be a problem if you're not doing anything illegal.
Rafael Nadal: What are you, 12? Do you understand that "snitching" only exists if there's something to "snitch" about? Stop acting so hard. You're a white kid living in a middle class neighborhood. You're not ghetto, you're not gangster, and there's no code of honor on the internet.
Pad: when people willingly cooperate with law enforcement incriminating themselves and their peers it's not only shockingly retarded it's also a display of weakness and a lack of integrity. it has little to do with "acting hard" as much as it has to do with common sense and a basic understanding of the 5th amendment. people tend to bury themselves out of fear and ignorance. and for the record i'm not a kid nor am i "middle class," punk bitch
Rafael Nadal: WHAT INTEGRITY?! What the HELL are you talking about? What part of "actions have consequences" do you not understand? Snitching only exists if there's something illegal going on. If you're not doing anything wrong, nobody can snitch on you. Snitching is also a vital part of the judicial system, as it uses the small fish to catch the big fish, nothing wrong with that. Don't like snitching? Don't open yourself up to prosecution.
Craig: snitching is a problem in ebk's case, where he was involved in this and went on a tell-all rampage (exposing his boiz) just to potentially save some skin on his ass
Pad: snitching is a problem in any case i feel like i just woke up in narnia
9 October 2010
Cryptome to A:
You will know that the mail address cryptome[at]earthlink.net is not secure: Earthlink has not closed the hole made by the hackers. It is a honey pot for several watchers.You are being social engineered by Nieves, and he is likely doing it to others as well.
Several sources are providing material on the alleged culprits and the three are probing, bluffing and threatening to find out who. Pretending to know more than they do, a technique you will recognize.
Here is "Perras" ' attempt today: http://cryptome.org/0002/perras-hacknot.htm
Pretending to be you, among others, is to be expected. This response pretends to go along with it.
9 October 2010
Related: http://cryptome.org/0002/cryptome-hack4.htm
Poisonapple.net has the same IP address as Kryogeniks.org, wigwam of the fearsome warriors.
No evidence provided that this is by Justin Perras and not a standard hacker impersonation. Several impersonations and forgeries have been received related to the Cryptome hack. Some were apparently provided to Kim Zetter at Wired and no evidence was provided by her for those either. A call to the telephone number listed will get a bogus response. Perras and other perps like him have tried to weasel out of previous misdeeds by claiming they were impersonated, misunderstood or falsely accused.
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 13:15:31 -0400 Subject: you're going down, sir. From: justin perras <justin[at]poisonapple.net> To: jya[at]pipeline.com You need to stop blaming me for your ineptitude. I understand your hurt over what happened with your website and that you feel violated. I continue to read your files and I can not help but laugh as you take the shotgun approach to 'backtracing' what happened over at earthlink. Trust me: I do not care about your stupid 'ass burning' campaign. I am not guilty so I have nothing to worry about. I will not 'roll over' on anyone -- because I don't have to. Do you understand? Your allegations are producing conflict and creating strife for me. I have nothing to hide from you or investigators. I do not care about your mindless witch hunt having any legal consequences for me whatsoever. The fact that you're associating me with people who may or may not have raped you without lube just demonstrates your ignorance. You're annoying: like a mosquito, and I hope that whoever compromised your emails and LAN takes that information and becomes an annoying parasite just so you can understand how aggravating this entire thing is. You're acting like an angry child which has consequences of it own. Your behavior is causing you to lose support. Do you understand this? Your vendetta against innocent people is acting as a detriment. I wouldn't imagine you care. Based on the materials on the site and the communications you post it seems like you're going to pursue whatever crazy agenda (earthlink owned by scientoligists.. are you fucking serious? ) you've cooked up in that delusional head of yours. I am filing suit, John. Since I haven't been proven guilty and will never be proven guilty (should things go that far based off your campaign of lies and misinformation -- idc i am not responsible for what happened to you, so do whatever you must do, fatso. I am not scared of the fbi / secret service. They are of no consequence here because there is no threat -- they are just aggravating. The more things you do which aggravate the quality of my life, the better my case against you will be.) I have no qualms with making a spectacle out of your fiasco. Maybe you can buy me a new Barbie Mobile. I've always wanted one of those. I am not afraid of you, law enforcement, or 'snitches' since I *really* have done nothing. My lawyer will be calling you later. Make sure you answer the telephone that way you can write the synopsis and perhaps change your tone about a C&D being 'forged'. Careful with how you word things from now on. '...forged' is accusatory. Might want to change that, or not. Like I said: the stupider you get, the better my case against you looks. (*twirls around marvelously*). Any media that contacts me re: your drama will be considered an attempt on your behalf to aggravate me. I make sure to tell them about how your violated fat ass is foolishly pointing fingers here, there, everywhere because you do not know and rely information from unverified sources with their own agenda. I have many enemies and have done some pretty fucked up shit in the past. I'm used to morons trying to continuously take me down, but they are usually young and retarded. You take the cake for being the most ignorant since you should be old enough to know better. Google this: "AND I KNOW WHO ITS COMMIN FROM -- BECAUSE I BACK TRACED IT. CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME" or just watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAn_dHMnbs This is what you've become. It's pathetic. Thanks. Justin Perras 774.310.1515